12:29 p.m.
All,
on 23 October we have a status meeting with EISCAT. One of the
outstanding issues is that we should build a ring, delivering IP service
to Skibotn, by summer 2019, while the two sites at Karesuando and
Kaiseniemi will only be build in 2020.
As there will likely be nothing at the sites (no buildings, no power, no
opportunity to deploy the local loop fibre) by summer 2019, we will have
to initially bypass the two sites.
BJ tells me that for Kaiseniemi, this can be done at the Kiruna pop.
Can you confirm this, BJ?
For Karesuando, I have info so far. The Sodankylä - Skibotn link pass
through the sites, with no PoP or ROADM along the way. Matti, Jani - is
there a way to complete the Sodankylä - Skibotn link without the
Karesuando site and the local loop fiber to the site?
As indicated, it would be best not to have this as an unknown for the 23
October meeting.
/Lars
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<lars(a)nordu.net>, +45 2288 1729, @lpfischer
1:09 p.m.
Lars,
I can confirm that we can build the ring without Kaiseniemi. That site
will be done as a spoke from Kiruna anyway.
And as of your question on cost etc from 2 weeks ago. I can confirm that
the SUNET fiber cost stated there is correct (but lacks the last mile).
Also the equipment should be fine as long as everything else (in .NO and
.FI) is untouched. I suggest that we let Lars Lange sync the equipment
one final time after everybody has sent in their info.
--BJ
Den 2018-09-29 kl. 12:29, skrev Lars Fischer:
All,
on 23 October we have a status meeting with EISCAT. One of the
outstanding issues is that we should build a ring, delivering IP service
to Skibotn, by summer 2019, while the two sites at Karesuando and
Kaiseniemi will only be build in 2020.
As there will likely be nothing at the sites (no buildings, no power, no
opportunity to deploy the local loop fibre) by summer 2019, we will have
to initially bypass the two sites.
BJ tells me that for Kaiseniemi, this can be done at the Kiruna pop.
Can you confirm this, BJ?
For Karesuando, I have info so far. The Sodankylä - Skibotn link pass
through the sites, with no PoP or ROADM along the way. Matti, Jani - is
there a way to complete the Sodankylä - Skibotn link without the
Karesuando site and the local loop fiber to the site?
As indicated, it would be best not to have this as an unknown for the 23
October meeting.
/Lars
2:14 p.m.
On 29 Sep 2018, at 13:09, Börje Josefsson wrote:
I can confirm that we can build the ring without
Kaiseniemi. That site
will be done as a spoke from Kiruna anyway.
Thanks, BJ
And as of your question on cost etc from 2 weeks ago.
I can confirm
that
the SUNET fiber cost stated there is correct (but lacks the last
mile).
Thanks.
Also the equipment should be fine as long as
everything else (in .NO
and
.FI) is untouched. I suggest that we let Lars Lange sync the equipment
one final time after everybody has sent in their info.
Agreed. Also, for those who have not yet done so: please make sure Lars
Lange have updated KMZ files.
/Lars
—
Lars Fischer - Strategy & Policy, NORDUnet
<lars(a)nordu.net>, +45 2288 1729, @lpfischer
2:34 p.m.
Gents,
We have asked Bredbåndsfylket Troms regarding KMZ file (or similar) but they do not want
to share that with others than Uninett.
The attached file is the only we got from them. If you need GPS position for some
waypoints along the route we may be able to provide just that.
Best regards
Helge Stranden | Senior Advisor, ICT & HPC physical Infrastructure
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On 29/09/2018, 14:15, "E3Dnet on behalf of Lars Fischer"
<e3dnet-bounces(a)lists.nordu.net on behalf of lars(a)nordu.net> wrote:
On 29 Sep 2018, at 13:09, Börje Josefsson wrote:
I can confirm that we can build the ring without
Kaiseniemi. That site
will be done as a spoke from Kiruna anyway.
Thanks, BJ
And as of your question on cost etc from 2 weeks ago.
I can confirm
that
the SUNET fiber cost stated there is correct (but lacks the last
mile).
Thanks.
Also the equipment should be fine as long as
everything else (in .NO
and
.FI) is untouched. I suggest that we let Lars Lange sync the equipment
one final time after everybody has sent in their info.
Agreed. Also, for those who have not yet done so: please make sure Lars
Lange have updated KMZ files.
/Lars
—
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<lars(a)nordu.net>, +45 2288 1729, @lpfischer
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8:26 p.m.
On 1 Oct 2018, at 14:34, Helge Stranden wrote:
We have asked Bredbåndsfylket Troms regarding KMZ file
(or similar)
but they do not want to share that with others than Uninett.
The attached file is the only we got from them. If you need GPS
position for some waypoints along the route we may be able to provide
just that.
Thanks for the update. I believe that what Longbear really need is to
verify the endpoints and ensure there’s no overlaps. Longbear, can you
work with Helge to make sure you have sufficient info to verify the
design?
/Lars
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<lars(a)nordu.net>, +45 2288 1729, @lpfischer
10:56 a.m.
New subject: Fwd: E3D ring w/o FI & SE local loops / sites
Gents,
it’s a week to the next E3D-network update meeting. We really need to
clarify if we can build the Sodankylä - Skibotn part of the ring w/o
the Karesuando being ready. If we are unsure, we need to start
investigating.
/Lars
Forwarded message:
From: Lars Fischer <lars(a)nordu.net>
To: EISCAT-3D network team <E3Dnet(a)lists.nordu.net>
Subject: E3D ring w/o FI & SE local loops / sites
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 12:29:10 +0200
All,
on 23 October we have a status meeting with EISCAT. One of the
outstanding issues is that we should build a ring, delivering IP
service to Skibotn, by summer 2019, while the two sites at Karesuando
and Kaiseniemi will only be build in 2020.
As there will likely be nothing at the sites (no buildings, no power,
no opportunity to deploy the local loop fibre) by summer 2019, we will
have to initially bypass the two sites.
BJ tells me that for Kaiseniemi, this can be done at the Kiruna pop.
Can you confirm this, BJ?
For Karesuando, I have info so far. The Sodankylä - Skibotn link pass
through the sites, with no PoP or ROADM along the way. Matti, Jani -
is there a way to complete the Sodankylä - Skibotn link without the
Karesuando site and the local loop fiber to the site?
As indicated, it would be best not to have this as an unknown for the
23 October meeting.
/Lars
--
Lars Fischer - Strategy & Policy, NORDUnet
<lars(a)nordu.net>, +45 2288 1729, @lpfischer
12:13 p.m.
New subject: Fwd: E3D ring w/o FI & SE local loops / sites
further a kind reminder about any awaiable KMZ files as well as exact
position of the POP's and fibre endpoints involved in the design.
POP's:
Narvik, Uninett-Sunet meeting point
Tromsö, Uninett
Skibotn, Uninett
Karesuando, both site and Funet
Sodankylä, Funet
Kalix, Sunet
Kiruna, Sunet
Termination points: (if not included in POP)
"Skibotn", the meetpoint between Uninett and Funet
KMZ's
Any you can share especially the last kilometers towards the POPs so we
can evaluate SPOF at the most likely places.
best regards
Lars "longbear"
On 16/10/2018 10.56, Lars Fischer wrote:
Gents,
it’s a week to the next E3D-network update meeting. We really need to
clarify if we can build the Sodankylä - Skibotn part of the ring w/o the
Karesuando being ready. If we are unsure, we need to start investigating.
/Lars
Forwarded message:
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Best Regards
Lars Lange Bjørn
From: Lars Fischer <lars(a)nordu.net>
To: EISCAT-3D network team <E3Dnet(a)lists.nordu.net>
Subject: E3D ring w/o FI & SE local loops / sites
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 12:29:10 +0200
All,
on 23 October we have a status meeting with EISCAT. One of the
outstanding issues is that we should build a ring, delivering IP
service to Skibotn, by summer 2019, while the two sites at Karesuando
and Kaiseniemi will only be build in 2020.
As there will likely be nothing at the sites (no buildings, no power,
no opportunity to deploy the local loop fibre) by summer 2019, we will
have to initially bypass the two sites.
BJ tells me that for Kaiseniemi, this can be done at the Kiruna pop.
Can you confirm this, BJ?
For Karesuando, I have info so far. The Sodankylä - Skibotn link pass
through the sites, with no PoP or ROADM along the way. Matti, Jani -
is there a way to complete the Sodankylä - Skibotn link without the
Karesuando site and the local loop fiber to the site?
As indicated, it would be best not to have this as an unknown for the
23 October meeting.
/Lars
--
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<lars(a)nordu.net>, +45 2288 1729, @lpfischer
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New subject: Fwd: E3D ring w/o FI & SE local loops / sites
Hi again.
In order to finalise first draft of the drawing I'm still missing all
POPs from Uninett, as well as the Kaiseniemi site if that is avaiable. I
remember from the Tundra project that we did spend quite some time
regarding the handover in Narvik, so I would like to get that 100% right
the first time.
Further the Sodankylä - Kalix route would be nice, to make the picture
complete.
I understand that yesterdays meeting went well and that closure of the
ring through Finland is not needed day one, which makes it somewhat
easier for us to achieve our 2019 goal of connecting Skibotn.
/Lars
On 16/10/2018 12.13, Lars Lange Bjørn wrote:
further a kind reminder about any awaiable KMZ files
as well as exact
position of the POP's and fibre endpoints involved in the design.
POP's:
Narvik, Uninett-Sunet meeting point
Tromsö, Uninett
Skibotn, Uninett
Karesuando, both site and Funet
Sodankylä, Funet
Kalix, Sunet
Kiruna, Sunet
Termination points: (if not included in POP)
"Skibotn", the meetpoint between Uninett and Funet
KMZ's
Any you can share especially the last kilometers towards the POPs so we
can evaluate SPOF at the most likely places.
best regards
Lars "longbear"
On 16/10/2018 10.56, Lars Fischer wrote:
Gents,
it’s a week to the next E3D-network update meeting. We really need to
clarify if we can build the Sodankylä - Skibotn part of the ring w/o the
Karesuando being ready. If we are unsure, we need to start investigating.
/Lars
Forwarded message:
From: Lars Fischer <lars(a)nordu.net>
To: EISCAT-3D network team <E3Dnet(a)lists.nordu.net>
Subject: E3D ring w/o FI & SE local loops / sites
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 12:29:10 +0200
All,
on 23 October we have a status meeting with EISCAT. One of the
outstanding issues is that we should build a ring, delivering IP
service to Skibotn, by summer 2019, while the two sites at Karesuando
and Kaiseniemi will only be build in 2020.
As there will likely be nothing at the sites (no buildings, no power,
no opportunity to deploy the local loop fibre) by summer 2019, we will
have to initially bypass the two sites.
BJ tells me that for Kaiseniemi, this can be done at the Kiruna pop.
Can you confirm this, BJ?
For Karesuando, I have info so far. The Sodankylä - Skibotn link pass
through the sites, with no PoP or ROADM along the way. Matti, Jani -
is there a way to complete the Sodankylä - Skibotn link without the
Karesuando site and the local loop fiber to the site?
As indicated, it would be best not to have this as an unknown for the
23 October meeting.
/Lars
--
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<lars(a)nordu.net>, +45 2288 1729, @lpfischer
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