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GREN Map WG Meeting Agenda: Demo!
by Ryan Davies 07 Mar '22

07 Mar '22

Greetings GREN Mappers, At our upcoming meeting, we can look forward to seeing a demo of the current state of the GREN Map software stack in the development stage. Thanks to Dan for assembling this demo, which consists of a handful of database nodes spun up on two of CANARIE’s cloud clusters, and their visualisation instances, plus some data from just a few participating networks at three levels in the data hierarchy. Dan will run through a quick tour of the software and how he’s got them set up, then we will welcome questions. The demo should help us focus our efforts in the lead-up to our first public release. Though we have previously generally converged on the recommendations made recently by the development team, this might help illuminate some of the details and inspire further thoughts. This is a great segue to the other major topic as we push towards an initial public release: the list of non-development tasks we feel are required to support the software in order to make this a viable product for the world to begin using. There are still many items without names attached to them. The GREN Map project wiki has been down for a while; it will hopefully be back up soon. In the mean time, in the meeting, we will review a local copy I have of the list, in hopes that we will continue to welcome more small contributions from the group. (Many tasks involve only a small time commitment.) Thus comprises the agenda for the meeting: 1. Demo * Guided Tour * Questions 2. Release Task List Review 3. Other Business 4. Next Meeting Cheers, Ryan

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GREN Map WG
by Ryan Davies 17 Feb '22

17 Feb '22

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GREN Map WG
by Ryan Davies 17 Feb '22

17 Feb '22

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Re: GREN Map Working Group
by Michael Stanton 12 Jan '22

12 Jan '22

Hi Tom and Alex Good to hear from you. It was a bit of a unexpected shock. Fortunately I was with specialists at a high quality hospital here, who were able to cope quickly with the situation. I expect to be at home tonight. Michael ________________________________ From: Tom Vitez <Tom.Vitez(a)canarie.ca> Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2022, 16:56 To: Alex S. Moura; Michael Stanton; Ryan Davies; Gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net; ajay(a)sanren.ac.za; john(a)sanren.ac.za; Schopf, Jennifer M; ian.galpin(a)geant.org; Dan Doyle Subject: RE: GREN Map Working Group I’m just reading thus now... Michael, that sounds a bit frightening. I hope all is well and wish you a speedy recovery! Kind Regards, Tom From: Alex S. Moura <alex.moura(a)kaust.edu.sa> Sent: January 11, 2022 2:37 PM To: Michael Stanton <michael.stanton(a)rnp.br>; Ryan Davies <Ryan.Davies(a)canarie.ca>; Gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net; Tom Vitez <Tom.Vitez(a)canarie.ca>; ajay(a)sanren.ac.za; john(a)sanren.ac.za; Schopf, Jennifer M <jmschopf(a)indiana.edu>; ian.galpin(a)geant.org; Dan Doyle <daldoyle(a)globalnoc.iu.edu> Subject: Re: GREN Map Working Group ________________________________ External This email originated from outside the organization. Use caution when following links as they could open malicious web sites. ________________________________ Dear Michael, Wow, that sounds like a bloody bleeding! I hope you are better, and can rest, and I wish you a prompt recovery. Get well soon! Warmest regards, Alex ________________________________ From: Michael Stanton <michael.stanton(a)rnp.br<mailto:michael.stanton@rnp.br>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 6:28 PM To: Ryan Davies; Gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net<mailto:Gren-mapping-wg@lists.nordu.net>; Tom Vitez; ajay(a)sanren.ac.za<mailto:ajay@sanren.ac.za>; john(a)sanren.ac.za<mailto:john@sanren.ac.za>; Schopf, Jennifer M; ian.galpin(a)geant.org<mailto:ian.galpin@geant.org>; Dan Doyle Subject: [GREN-Mapping-WG] Re: GREN Map Working Group Hi all Sorry to have missed today's meeting without warning. This was caused by my spending last night in hospital after a scheduled visit to take some cell samples resulted in excessive bleeding, which required corrective measures. I should be home tonight or tomorrow. Michael ________________________________ From: Ryan Davies via GREN Mapping WG <gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net<mailto:gren-mapping-wg@lists.nordu.net>> on behalf of Ryan Davies <Ryan.Davies(a)canarie.ca<mailto:Ryan.Davies@canarie.ca>> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2021 10:59:20 AM To: Gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net<mailto:Gren-mapping-wg@lists.nordu.net> <Gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net<mailto:Gren-mapping-wg@lists.nordu.net>>; Tom Vitez <Tom.Vitez(a)canarie.ca<mailto:Tom.Vitez@canarie.ca>>; ajay(a)sanren.ac.za<mailto:ajay@sanren.ac.za> <ajay(a)sanren.ac.za<mailto:ajay@sanren.ac.za>>; john(a)sanren.ac.za<mailto:john@sanren.ac.za> <john(a)sanren.ac.za<mailto:john@sanren.ac.za>>; Schopf, Jennifer M <jmschopf(a)indiana.edu<mailto:jmschopf@indiana.edu>>; ian.galpin(a)geant.org<mailto:ian.galpin@geant.org> <ian.galpin(a)geant.org<mailto:ian.galpin@geant.org>>; Dan Doyle <daldoyle(a)globalnoc.iu.edu<mailto:daldoyle@globalnoc.iu.edu>> Subject: [GREN-Mapping-WG] GREN Map Working Group When: 11 January 2022 10:00-11:00. Where: https://canarie.zoom.us/j/63573341141?pwd=Zm0wWkJ6ZTMrbnNSaU96WnNuQ3pRdz09<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/canarie.zoom.us/j/63573341141?pwd=Zm0wWk…> Hi there, Ryan Davies is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Time: This is a recurring meeting Meet anytime Join from a PC, Mac, iPad, iPhone or Android device: Please click this URL to start or join. https://canarie.zoom.us/j/63573341141?pwd=Zm0wWkJ6ZTMrbnNSaU96WnNuQ3pRdz09<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/canarie.zoom.us/j/63573341141?pwd=Zm0wWk…> Or, go to https://canarie.zoom.us/join<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/canarie.zoom.us/join__;!!Nmw4Hv0!m8bVT-f…> and enter meeting ID: 635 7334 1141 and password: 039224 Join from dial-in phone line: Dial: +1 647 558 0588 Meeting ID: 635 7334 1141 Participant ID: Shown after joining the meeting International numbers available: https://canarie.zoom.us/u/g7ZZPyTBU<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/canarie.zoom.us/u/g7ZZPyTBU__;!!Nmw4Hv0!…>

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GREN Map Working Group
by Ryan Davies 11 Jan '22

11 Jan '22

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GREN Map Admin Authentication
by Dan Sellars 05 Jan '22

05 Jan '22

Hello Everyone, I hope you all had a happy holidays and New Year. In the last working group I brought up the topic of handling authentication in the GREN node. To be clear this will just be for administrators of a GREN Map instance, not someone viewing the map — that will be open. Currently for the development and sandbox instance we are using the built in django username and password functionality and as we all know in the modern world this is not adequate for going live. I brought up the option of using FIM / Federated SSO (eduGAIN) as the authentication mechanism. Marco very eloquently argued the case that we should make federated SSO the only option. Those that don't have FIM/SSO are encouraged to get it set up or request help to get it set up. Having exception discourages adoption and in South America RedCLARA now insists on it for all their services. (Marco please feel free to add or correct me if I have mischaracterised your point here). This view strongly aligns with CANARIE's approach. The general consensus among the other GREN Mapping working group members present was that SSO was pretty much ubiquitous, especially in Europe, and that support for other regions could be provided in one way or another. Not having to be concerned with password management and protection of PII is of great benefit to adopting SSO. We would therefore like to propose for the initial release of the GREN Map, we allow Admin logins only via SSO. This is a big decision so I would like to give other members of the working group the opportunity to have their say. We can discuss more at the next Working Group meeting on the 11th January or via email exchange if you cannot make it then. Best Regards, Dan. Dan Sellars | Manager, Software Development | CANARIE dan.sellars(a)canarie.ca

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GREN Map Working Group
by Ryan Davies 24 Dec '21

24 Dec '21

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GREN Map Working Group
by Ryan Davies 03 Dec '21

03 Dec '21

Greetings GREN Mappers, It’s been a while! On the agenda for this meeting: 1. Status update: development, outreach 2. Development priorities for Version One 3. Participation encouragement outreach strategy If you can’t make it but have any comments or contributions, please feel free to send me an e-mail. Cheers, Ryan Hi there, Ryan Davies is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Time: This is a recurring meeting Meet anytime Join from a PC, Mac, iPad, iPhone or Android device: Please click this URL to start or join. https://canarie.zoom.us/j/63573341141?pwd=Zm0wWkJ6ZTMrbnNSaU96WnNuQ3pRdz09 Or, go to https://canarie.zoom.us/join and enter meeting ID: 635 7334 1141 and password: 039224 Join from dial-in phone line: Dial: +1 647 558 0588 Meeting ID: 635 7334 1141 Participant ID: Shown after joining the meeting International numbers available: https://canarie.zoom.us/u/g7ZZPyTBU

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RFC: GREN Map v1.0 Feature List / Next GREN Map WG Meeting
by Ryan Davies 22 Nov '21

22 Nov '21

Greetings GREN Map Working Group, We are looking to schedule our next meeting in the next couple of weeks. Ahead of that, I am soliciting feedback on two things, one quick, and one as easy homework ahead of the next meeting. Setting Next Working Group Meeting Please respond to these items by EoD tomorrow (Nov 23) if possible. Date: Please indicate your preference for the next meeting date, either Tuesday next week (November 30) or the following week (December 7). 1. November 30 2. December 7 3. Cannot make either date, but look forward to the following meeting Time: Many of us have had a Daylight Savings Time jump since our last meeting. Please indicate your preference for regular meeting times. 1. 12:00 UTC (keep previous UTC time) 2. 13:00 UTC (keep local time for those who’ve jumped from DST in the Northern Hemisphere) 3. 14:00 UTC Development Guidance: Version One Release Feature Set One of the major goals of this project for the next quarter is to scale up participation from more NRENs. (Our strategy for how to achieve this will be a major agenda item for the meeting.) Ahead of the next meeting, please review the document linked below. It’s a quick couple of pages describing, in brief, the set of remaining features we propose ought to be developed before we consider the product suitable for release to the general public as “Version One”. (We will, of course, continue development after that.) https://canarie-my.sharepoint.com/:w:/g/personal/ryan_davies_canarie_ca/EXH… Please see if you notice any features missing that you feel should be included, or feel that any of the items in the list are not in fact required. If you would like to see a list of the features already developed, let me know. We’ll aim to achieve consensus on this list by the next meeting. If you will not make the next meeting and have feedback, please either e-mail them to me or leave comments in the document. Cheers, Ryan

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Canceled: GREN Map Working Group
by Ryan Davies 11 Oct '21

11 Oct '21

Due to many unavailabilities, we'll cancel this meeting and rejoin at the next opportunity. We have a few follow-ups from previous meetings that we'll send out by e-mail. If you have anything to bring to the group, of course please either e-mail the chairs (me and Tom Fryer) or the group list. Cheers! Ryan

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