Hi Tom and Alex
Good to hear from you.
It was a bit of a unexpected shock. Fortunately I was with specialists at a high quality hospital here, who were able to cope quickly with the situation. I expect to be at home tonight.
Michael
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I’m just reading thus now...
Michael, that sounds a bit frightening. I hope all is well and wish you a speedy recovery!
Kind Regards,
Tom
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Dear Michael,
Wow, that sounds like a bloody bleeding!
I hope you are better, and can rest, and I wish you a prompt recovery.
Get well soon!
Warmest regards,
Alex
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Subject: [GREN-Mapping-WG] Re: GREN Map Working Group
Hi all
Sorry to have missed today's meeting without warning. This was caused by my spending last night in hospital after a scheduled visit to take some cell samples resulted in excessive bleeding, which required corrective measures. I should be home tonight or tomorrow.
Michael
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Subject: [GREN-Mapping-WG] GREN Map Working Group
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Hello Everyone,
I hope you all had a happy holidays and New Year.
In the last working group I brought up the topic of handling authentication in the GREN node. To be clear this will just be for administrators of a GREN Map instance, not someone viewing the map — that will be open.
Currently for the development and sandbox instance we are using the built in django username and password functionality and as we all know in the modern world this is not adequate for going live.
I brought up the option of using FIM / Federated SSO (eduGAIN) as the authentication mechanism. Marco very eloquently argued the case that we should make federated SSO the only option. Those that don't have FIM/SSO are encouraged to get it set up or request help to get it set up. Having exception discourages adoption and in South America RedCLARA now insists on it for all their services. (Marco please feel free to add or correct me if I have mischaracterised your point here). This view strongly aligns with CANARIE's approach. The general consensus among the other GREN Mapping working group members present was that SSO was pretty much ubiquitous, especially in Europe, and that support for other regions could be provided in one way or another.
Not having to be concerned with password management and protection of PII is of great benefit to adopting SSO.
We would therefore like to propose for the initial release of the GREN Map, we allow Admin logins only via SSO.
This is a big decision so I would like to give other members of the working group the opportunity to have their say. We can discuss more at the next Working Group meeting on the 11th January or via email exchange if you cannot make it then.
Best Regards,
Dan.
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Greetings GREN Mappers,
It’s been a while!
On the agenda for this meeting:
1. Status update: development, outreach
2. Development priorities for Version One
3. Participation encouragement outreach strategy
If you can’t make it but have any comments or contributions, please feel free to send me an e-mail.
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Greetings GREN Map Working Group,
We are looking to schedule our next meeting in the next couple of weeks. Ahead of that, I am soliciting feedback on two things, one quick, and one as easy homework ahead of the next meeting.
Setting Next Working Group Meeting
Please respond to these items by EoD tomorrow (Nov 23) if possible.
Date: Please indicate your preference for the next meeting date, either Tuesday next week (November 30) or the following week (December 7).
1. November 30
2. December 7
3. Cannot make either date, but look forward to the following meeting
Time: Many of us have had a Daylight Savings Time jump since our last meeting. Please indicate your preference for regular meeting times.
1. 12:00 UTC (keep previous UTC time)
2. 13:00 UTC (keep local time for those who’ve jumped from DST in the Northern Hemisphere)
3. 14:00 UTC
Development Guidance: Version One Release Feature Set
One of the major goals of this project for the next quarter is to scale up participation from more NRENs. (Our strategy for how to achieve this will be a major agenda item for the meeting.)
Ahead of the next meeting, please review the document linked below. It’s a quick couple of pages describing, in brief, the set of remaining features we propose ought to be developed before we consider the product suitable for release to the general public as “Version One”. (We will, of course, continue development after that.)
https://canarie-my.sharepoint.com/:w:/g/personal/ryan_davies_canarie_ca/EXH…
Please see if you notice any features missing that you feel should be included, or feel that any of the items in the list are not in fact required. If you would like to see a list of the features already developed, let me know.
We’ll aim to achieve consensus on this list by the next meeting. If you will not make the next meeting and have feedback, please either e-mail them to me or leave comments in the document.
Cheers,
Ryan
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Cheers!
Ryan
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Hi Michael, All,
I think there are two issues at hand, and were touched on in the call a couple of weeks.
On the one hand, we want to raise the profile of the activity among RENs across the globe. Ryan and I recently gave a presentation on the map initiative at a CEO Forum meeting, and it was suggested that a marcomms campaign be planned to promote the activity and our interest in wider participation. Marcomms teams are a big stakeholder in maps, so making sure they are aware is important. They can also help promote within their organisations as well as provide useful input.
Secondly, there is also the wider promotion. There is some discussion of a where an overall visualisation would be hosted, a website, etc. These elements all concern Marcomms so again, getting them involved in discussions is I think appropriate.
I hope this clarifies a little.
Please note that I will unfortunately not be able to join tomorrow's call, as I will be taking the afternoon of to spend it with my son on his birthday.
So to all, please do let me know who from your Marcomms team should be invited to an introductory call, so I can get a doodle set up.
Thanks,
Tom
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Sent: 10 September 2021 20:21
To: Tom Fryer <tom.fryer(a)geant.org>; Gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net
Subject: Re: GREN Interactive map promotion
Hi Tom
I wonder whether it is not a little precipitate to go so very public before offering more elaborate visualisation tools than the extremely simple ones currently available.
It has been clear from the beginning that the primary intention of the initiative was to provide solid mechanisms to define a geographical location-sensitive database, and this seems ti have been achieved. However, the visualisation question has so far been shelved, and we need now to discuss more elaborate means of presenting our networks in a visually useful way.
The question to ask now is how may this be achieved in such a way that marcoms may more easily incorporate products of this more elaborate tool. This will be a second phase of the mapping project, with new expertises.
When do we begin?
Michael
Michael
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Subject: [GREN-Mapping-WG] GREN Interactive map promotion
Hello Everyone,
I hope that this message finds everyone well.
Over a number of calls in recent weeks, we have been discussing taking the map to the next level, for which increased engagement at a global level is highly desirable. In order to consider ways to best promote this activity, we would like to arrange a meeting specifically to discuss setting up a "campaign" to encourage greater participation.
The plan then is to arrange a meeting to discuss with interested Marcomms representatives from those already participating in the collaboration, but also to invite Marcomms representatives from those not yet closely involved (e.g. the regional networks in Africa and Asia-Pacific).
To start looking at timings for the discussion, could you please let me know who I should reach out to in your respective Marcomms teams?
Many thanks, and have a good weekend!
Tom
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Hello Everyone,
I hope that this message finds everyone well.
Over a number of calls in recent weeks, we have been discussing taking the map to the next level, for which increased engagement at a global level is highly desirable. In order to consider ways to best promote this activity, we would like to arrange a meeting specifically to discuss setting up a "campaign" to encourage greater participation.
The plan then is to arrange a meeting to discuss with interested Marcomms representatives from those already participating in the collaboration, but also to invite Marcomms representatives from those not yet closely involved (e.g. the regional networks in Africa and Asia-Pacific).
To start looking at timings for the discussion, could you please let me know who I should reach out to in your respective Marcomms teams?
Many thanks, and have a good weekend!
Tom
Tom Fryer
Head of International Relations
GÉANT
e-mail: Tom.Fryer(a)geant.org<mailto:Tom.Fryer@geant.org>
Mobile: +34 638 175060
Networks Services People
Lean more at www.geant.org<http://www.geant.org/>
GÉANT Vereniging (Association) is registered with the Chamber of Commerce in Amsterdam with registration number 40535155 and operates in the UK as a branch of GÉANT Vereniging. Registered office: Hoekenrode 3, 1102BR Amsterdam, The Netherlands. UK branch address: City House, 126-130 Hills Road, Cambridge CB2 1PQ, UK.
